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Interview | Recognized as a leading public intellectual from Brazil\u2019s urban outskirts, Leandro Roque de Oliveira (Emicida) speaks exclusively to JU about social justice and the fight against racism<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

*First published December 4, 2025
*Photograph: On the night of 29 November, (2025) in a filled auditorium, Emicida delivered a speech that was affectionate, direct, and cutting in equal measure. (Credit: Fl\u00e1vio Dutra\/JU Archive \u2013 Nov. 29, 2025)<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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\u201cAs long as my imagination composes insanities, I master the art.\u201d<\/em>Driven by dreams and guided by improvisation, rapper Leandro Roque de Oliveira, known as Emicida, was granted the title of Doctor Honoris Causa by the Federal University of Rio Grande do Sul<\/a> (UFRGS) on the evening of November 29.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Recognized as an organic intellectual who emerged from Brazil\u2019s urban outskirts, Emicida is one of the leading voices in hip-hop. Academic studies examining the educational contributions of his work already number in the dozens. His lyrics bring classrooms closer to the reality lived by millions of black youths \u2014 who face racism, exclusion, and lack of opportunity. They give shape to the anti-racist agenda and resonate as a provocation directed at a country that requires changes. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cWhite happiness is whole; Black happiness is almost.\u201d The lyrics from the song \u201cIsm\u00e1lia<\/a>\u201d inspired Minister C\u00e1rmen L\u00facia, of the Supreme Federal Court Justice, during a landmark case recognizing systemic violations of Black rights and exposing the Brazilian federation\u2019s historical omission in confronting structural racism. Emicida has become a paragon, precisely as the speaker Eliane Duzac described him during the honorary degree ceremony: \u201ca mirror, a path.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cI wanted hip-hop to receive the same level of respect as any other knowledge field within academia. More than that, I wanted the ideas, ideologies, love of knowledge, and sense of justice that are fundamental to hip-hop culture to become part of academic culture as well,\u201d read the statement printed on the shirt Emicida wore during the ceremony. The message echoed throughout the auditorium and was embraced by UFRGS as a commitment to the anti-racist agenda and the full inclusion of historically excluded populations. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

In this exclusive interview with JU, Leandro Roque de Oliveira reflects on the meaning of receiving the Doctor Honoris Causa title, the influence of his work on academia and youth, the role of art, the philosophy of Ubuntu, and the new chapter of his career.<\/p>\n\n\n

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The moment Emicida received the title from UFRGS, represented by Vice-President Pedro Costa (Photo: Fl\u00e1vio Dutra\/JU Archive \u2013 29\/11\/2025)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n
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The Doctor Honoris Causa title granted by UFRGS represents an unprecedented recognition of hip-hop culture and was strongly supported by Black student collectives. What does this recognition, coming both from a public university and from Black student activism, mean for your personal trajectory and for hip-hop in Brazil?<\/strong>
\u201cYour remark is very important. Receiving this title is a double honor. First, because of everything that receiving a Doctor Honoris Causa title represents. That alone already feels like a dream. But it becomes even more meaningful since it emerged from the mobilization of Black student collectives, a community that is meaningful to me.  Everything gains greater beauty and significance. Throughout my life, I\u2019ve tried to contribute to this network of solidarities that we also call anti-racism.  Racism anywhere in the world is self-destructive, but in Brazil, it\u2019s doubly so. It\u2019s impossible to deny another person without, in some way, denying yourself. These young people, who come from backgrounds similar to mine and who have been occupying and fighting for public universities, are committed, just like us, to moving beyond theory.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Taking part in hip-hop culture means I see myself as part of a larger collective soul capable of inspiring gestures like this one, gestures powerful enough to provoke urgent and transformative reflections. It is more than hip-hoppy, which has gone far beyond at this point: it\u2019s a way of life, a way of seeing and existing in the world. It should not only exist within academia but also inspire and influence universities through its sense of love, justice, and collectivity. When that happens, we achieve a genuine victory. Point for the Black community of Rio Grande do Sul, so often made invisible yet always active in major national debates. Oliveira Silveira came from here. So did my friend Rafa Rafuagi from the Hip-Hop Museum. These are incredibly valuable people, not just for the state where they were born. We are fruits of the same Baobab tree, and it is an honor to join my brothers and sisters from the south beneath the shade of the tree to receive an Honoris Causa title.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Emicida highlighted the importance of the South and its artists in the text he recorded in the Golden Book of UFRGS (Photo: Fl\u00e1vio Dutra\/JU Archive \u2013 11\/ 29\/ 2025)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n
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Your work inspires young Black people from the urban outskirts who enter universities and contributes to the implementation of Brazil\u2019s Law 10.639\/03, which mandates the teaching of Afro-Brazilian history and culture. How do you view the impact of seeing your lyrics and the documentary \u201cAmarElo\u201d studied academically in Brazil and abroad, including at formal academic spaces such as the University of Coimbra and the University of Pittsburgh? As an artist whose work practically represents the three pillars that support the university (teaching, research, and outreach), what message does this recognition send to young people who have historically been excluded from the formal academic space?<\/strong>
\u201cIf change already happens slowly despite everything we do collectively, imagine what would happen if we stood still. We need to understand the historical importance of simple everyday gestures, which, in truth, are not simple at all. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Bringing an MC\u2019s lyrics into the classroom to explore the richness of language, or using graffiti to encourage students to reflect on how we relate to public spaces, or discussing collectivity through experiences grounded in hip-hop culture \u2014 all of that is extremely powerful. <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Law 10.639 is an enormous and undeniable achievement. Our generation now has the opportunity to strengthen it, preserving its gains while improving what it still lacks so that we may build a different relationship with ourselves and with our sibling continent across the Atlantic: Africa, which is inseparable from any discussion about Brazil. At the same time, we must never lose sight of Indigenous knowledge and Indigenous life, which are far from secondary in the country we dream of building. Imagining a such Brazil means believing in education \u2014 and truly believing in education is everything we can do. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Projects like AmarElo seek to retell Brazilian history from an Afro-Brazilian perspective while honoring figures such as L\u00e9lia Gonzalez. What do you see as the most urgent role of your art today in confronting structural racism and strengthening Black youth\u2019s self-esteem?<\/strong>
\u201cI believe the role of art is simply to be art. That alone is enough. To paraphrase the great M\u00e1rio Quintana\u2014a good cause does not save a bad poet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Art can serve many purposes beyond itself, but its only true obligation is to exist as art. Everything else comes from the interpretations we construct according to our beliefs. When we celebrate figures such as L\u00e9lia Gonzalez, Abdias Nascimento, Wilson das Neves, and other giants who inspire us, it\u2019s often because we recognize how unfairly they have been treated by the national memory industry.  Because of the visibility I have today, I can propose discussions and encourage people to look more carefully at those who contributed so much to improving life conditions in our country.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Photo: Fl\u00e1vio Dutra\/JU Archive \u2013 29\/11\/2025<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n
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Your interpretation of<\/strong> Ubuntu<\/em><\/strong> (\u201cI am because we are\u201d) appears in the song \u201cPrincipia\u201d through the line \u201cTudo que n\u00f3iz tem \u00e9 n\u00f3iz\u201d (\u201cAll we have is each other\u201d). How does this philosophy shape your creative process?<\/strong>
\u201cThe communal worldview found in African philosophies is fascinating and so vast that it\u2019s difficult to find an exact translation for a word like \u2018ubuntu.\u2019 \u2018I am because we are\u2019 works to some extent, but the word carries a much broader cosmic and existential meaning. I agree with philosopher [Mogobe] Ramose when he suggests writing it with a hyphen \u2014 \u2018Ubu-ntu\u2019<\/em> \u2014 to emphasize the two dimensions contained within the term. First, existence in its broadest sense: the entire universe that language can contain. Second, human existence specifically, which is our condition.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

There are also concepts like kintu<\/em> and hantu<\/em>, which open even more possibilities for understanding life; possibilities that modern ideas of progress often overlook, even though they are essential.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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My music tries to point toward this vastness in the ways we perceive and feel reality. It is always a praise song to that mystery which somehow remains hidden in the shadows.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Your Instagram profile recently changed dramatically, with older posts removed and the phrase \u201cWhen paths become confused, it becomes necessary to return to the beginning,\u201d appearing as a reference to your 2009 debut album. Fans are speculating intensely. Can we expect a new project, perhaps reconnecting with the \u2018Old Testament Emicida\u2019?<\/strong>
\u201cI love this joke about the \u2018Old Testament Emicida\u2019. We\u2019re warming up to once again share with the world what we do best: dreaming through music.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Among the hundreds of posts you could have left online, only two older photos with DJ Nyack remain \u2014 despite the public end of your partnership in 2024. Is there any relationship between those images and the idea of \u201creturning to the beginning\u201d? Does it point to a sound or thematic direction for what’s to come?<\/strong>
\u201cAt every moment, we need to ask ourselves whether we are on the path we truly want to follow. Sometimes it becomes necessary to recalculate the route and make adjustments. These changes on social media are the first sign that we\u2019re doing exactly that. What we\u2019re about to share with the world is very special and profound. Soon everyone will know.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Photo: Fl\u00e1vio Dutra\/JU Archive \u2013 29\/11\/2025<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n
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This interview was conducted just hours before the announcement of \u201c<\/em>Emicida Racional Volume 3<\/em><\/a>.\u201d In the new project, the artist revisits the legacy of Racionais MCs and embraces a return to the raw rap style and sharp lyricism that originally earned him his stage name.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

More than a return to the \u201cOld Testament,\u201d however, this new Emicida is Ubuntu.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Translated into English by Alice de Freitas Castro<\/strong>, undergraduate student enrolled in the course “Supervised Translation Training I (English)” of the Undergraduate Program in Language and Literature, under the supervision and translation revision of Professor Elizamari R. Becker (P.h.D.) – IL\/UFRGS<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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:: Read in portuguese<\/strong>
Emicida: \u201cAcreditar realmente na educa\u00e7\u00e3o \u00e9 tudo o que podemos fazer\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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